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Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird
Posted by Bluebird on 1/12/06

    No silly, my birds are in their cages when I am not home, sleeping or if
    not able to supervise them properly. They are out all other times. They
    have a choice to seek attention from me instead of being stuck on a
    playstand begging or screeming. Yes, they are companions but they are not
    truly domesticated like dogs are. Do we alter how a dog moves around in
    our home? Clipping wings is like tying a dog to the couch. Parrots are not
    breed to not have wings. I feel that birds that can fly make better pets,
    are less fearful and bite less. When I bring my Umbrella to the vet his
    heart beat stays normal. When I take him for talks at schools he is calm
    and relaxed. and Look at On 1/12/06, Cassie wrote:
    > What? They magicly materialize outside of their cages and fly to you?
    >
    > My birds don't scream either. They are out when I am out, and all of them
    > are accustumed to this lifestyle. If nature intended them to fly, then
    > why are they bred for companions?
    >
    > Get a grip on reality. They are COMPANIONS; as are dogs. If they were
    > meant to be the way "nature intended", they would be roaming in packs
    > hunting HUMANS in the streets instead of being in our homes as family
    > members.
    >
    > "Nature intended", my heel.
    >
    > On 1/12/06, Blue bird wrote:
    >> The reason for flight is that is what nature intended. Go to any
    >> national conference and talk to the speakers and the attendees there
    >> are fewer and fewer people clipping their birds. My birds fly to me
    >> when they want attention , instead of screeming for my attention.
    >> On 1/12/06, Cassima wrote:
    >>> Then that is your choice to keep their flight. I do agree with you
    >>> that there needs to be more rigerous training for birds and bird
    >>> owners, though. However, until there is a "norm" for all bird owners,
    >>> that most likely will not happen as it has with dogs.
    >>>
    >>> If a bird has been stepped on, it's the OWNERS' fault for not keeping
    >>> them off the floor and teaching them to stay on the cage or giving
    >>> them a place they want to be away from heavy foot-traffic areas of
    >>> the home. I have no sympathy for these people. This just shows how
    >>> irresponsible some bird owners actually are, whether flighted or not.
    >>>
    >>> Them being on the floor has never a problem in my house with the
    >>> birds I have now. You watch where you walk; it's as simple as that.
    >>>
    >>> On 1/12/06, Bluebird wrote:
    >>>> There are risks for children and there are risks for our birds.
    >>>> Many a child has walked out of a door and down the street. I did
    >>>> when I was two. Luckly, my mother got to me before I reached a busy
    >>>> street. How many clipped birds have been stepped on because they
    >>>> were on the floor? I know of a few. Most of the birds that I know
    >>>> of that have flown away were clipped but got suprised and took off
    >>>> much to their owner's suprise. I think it is time to for bird
    >>>> owning folks to catch up with responsible dog owners and start to
    >>>> do some serious training of their birds. They should be able to
    >>>> stay and come on command just like any dog does. It can be done
    >>>> take a look at the Good Bird Inc Magazine. I have two macaws, and
    >>>> unbrella, SI Eclectus and a cockateil that all fly. My umbrella can
    >>>> cut corners and fly from the very back of my house to the very
    >>>> front. I feel it is worth the risk to let them fly as nature
    >>>> intended.

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