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Re: What was that crap?
Posted by Cassie on 1/13/06
An article from 2002? Nice. Do you have anything more up-to-date? "...wing clipping does not guarentee freedom from flight or the ability to escape..." Duh. Some species, as in the Brotogeris Parakeet, can still fly even with a proper clip. The ability to escape... Duh. Keeps them from going out windows. If the owner does not seperate the bird from other pets, that is their own fault. Again, this is crap. "A Clip that prevents flight inside may not do so when the bird has the benifit of wind or increased space, outside." WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD TAKE THEIR BIRD OUTSIDE WITHOUT THE PROPER RESTRAINING DEVICE IN THE FIRST PLACE???!!! "In this authors' apinion that all young parrots should be given the chance to learn to fly." Didn't I say this? Let fledglings learn to fly, then after 3-4 weeks afterward, clip them? I swear I said this. I know I said this... ...Oh yeah. And you were the one who said "Oh, NOES! Take it away before they learn to enjoy it?!" Well, yeah. That way they don't miss it. You can't be depressed about something you know nothing about, eh? "There are three serious problems which -may- arise subsequentto wing clipping in parrots. a)the safety, and ability to escape danger by the bird is comprimised;" Duh. Owner's fault for letting it happen, clipped or not. The bird is STILL comprimised while inside the house, and they have poor night vision, too. I hope ALL people who are pro-clip put them in cages- I would hate to hear of ANOTHER bird smaking himself out when he crashes into something he can't see. "b)the subsequent re-growth of feathers can be problematic (see palte 2 below)" Um... Where is Plate 2? "c)the bird -may- begin to develop behavioural problems (feather plucking and agression) following clipping." ...This is the part of the script where I say "blah-blah-blah owner's responsiblility, quack-quack-quack; this would not happen if the owner was smart and though like a human in a bird's body..." but I have beaten that horse enough. "May be do to" this... "May be do to" that... And that "off there" command? Priceless. "Off there! That lamp with an exposed, very hot flourescent lightbulb that has just a few measily bars to protect it is bad for you!" Still nothing conclusive enough. Sorry. Try again. But good try! I laughed just as hard with this one as I did with Parrot University. On 1/13/06, Patsy wrote: > http://www.lansdown-vets.co.uk/pdf/Wing- clipping,&37;20imping&37;20and&37;20obedience&37; > 20training&37;20in&37;20parrots.pdf
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Flighted Birds......, 1/11/06, by Patsy.
- Re: Flighted Birds.Good for you Patsy intelligence shows, 1/11/06, by Jim.
- Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/11/06, by Bluebird.
- Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/11/06, by Alison.
- Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/11/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/11/06, by MKay.
- Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Patsy.
- Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Alison.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Alison.
- Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Alison.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Alison.
- Re: I am YET to be convinced, and points to ponder, 1/12/06, by Cassima.
- Re: Flighted Birds..Scott/Guess this bird wasn't trained?, 1/12/06, by FYI.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Jim.
- Re: Errors in your comparisons., 1/12/06, by Cassie.
- Re: I'm laughing ALOT, 1/12/06, by Cassima.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Bluebird.
- Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Cassima.
- Re: The Reason for Flight is a Happier and Healthier Bird..., 1/12/06, by Patsy.
- Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by MKay.
- Re: The Reason for Flight is a Happier and Healthier Bird..., 1/12/06, by to Jim, Patsy, and Scott with love.
- Re: The Reason for Flight is a Happier and Healthier Bird..., 1/12/06, by Oh, the HORROR.
- Re: The Reason for Flight is a Happier and Healthier Bird..., 1/12/06, by hope for the future!.
- Re: I may be crippled...., 1/12/06, by Very Unhappy Bird.
- Re: Still a crappy site, nonetheless., 1/12/06, by Cassima.
- Re: There companion birds not wild birds, 1/12/06, by Lyn.
- Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Blue bird.
- Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Cassie.
- Re: There companion birds not wild birds, 1/12/06, by Cassie.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Jim.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Cassie.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by to Jim.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Cassie.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Jim.
- Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Alison.
- Re: Woops... Really to Jim... My bad, 1/12/06, by Cassie ^_^*.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Alison.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by MKay.
- Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Bluebird.
- Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by MKay.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Bluebird.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by MKay.
- Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Bluebird.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. MKay and Cassima, 1/12/06, by Jimbo.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. MKay and Cassima, 1/12/06, by MKay to Jimbo.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Bluebird.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds..Scott/Guess this bird wasn't trained?, 1/12/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Scott.
- Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Scott.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by MKay.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Cassima.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Especially for Bluebird.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by better for children...
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Cass.
- Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Scott.
- Re: "Parrots for Dummies" is a great resource, 1/12/06, by Cassie.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Alison.
- Re: Are you an only child, Scott?, 1/12/06, by Cassima.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Scott.
- Re: Are you an only child, Scott?, 1/13/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Alison.
- Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!!, 1/13/06, by Debby.
- Re: You still have no room to talk, Scott., 1/13/06, by Cassima.
- Re: You people are so desperate..., 1/13/06, by Patsy.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Susy.
- Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! , 1/13/06, by Jim.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Alison.
- Re: You would think so, Patsy., 1/13/06, by Cassie.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Cassima.
- Re: More flight Info, 1/13/06, by Patsy.
- Re: More flight Info -repost, 1/13/06, by Patsy.
- Re: More flight Info -repost again, 1/13/06, by Patsy.
- Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up the good work , 1/13/06, by Jim.
- Re: What was that crap?, 1/13/06, by Cassie.
- Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up the good work , 1/13/06, by Alison.
- Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! /Jim, 1/13/06, by Debby.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott/Alison, 1/13/06, by Debby.
- Re: Toilet seats SHOULD be left up!, 1/13/06, by Jimbo.
- Re: Toilet seats SHOULD be left up!, 1/13/06, by Alison.
- Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! , 1/13/06, by to Jim.
- Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! /Jim, 1/13/06, by Debby.
- Re: Couldn't be silent anymore! o.k. No Name, 1/13/06, by Jimbo .
- Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! /Jim, 1/13/06, by I am Jim.
- Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!!/Debby, 1/13/06, by Rina.
- Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!!, 1/13/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flight for Avian Rights, 1/13/06, by Magia.
- Re: You still have no room to talk, Scott., 1/13/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up ..you too jim, 1/13/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up the good work , 1/13/06, by Scott.
- Re: aviary and flight for cassie, 1/13/06, by Magia.
- Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! /Jim, 1/13/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott/Alison, 1/13/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up the good work , 1/13/06, by Alison.
- Re: aviary and flight for cassie, 1/13/06, by Alison.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott/Alison, 1/13/06, by Alison.
- Re: Flight for Avian Rights/Magie...P.S, 1/13/06, by Alison.
- Re: You still have no room to talk, Scott., 1/13/06, by Cassie.
- Re: aviary and flight for cassie, 1/13/06, by Cassima.
- Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up the good work , 1/13/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott/Alison, 1/13/06, by Scott.
- Re: You still have no room to talk, Scott., 1/13/06, by Scott.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Susy.
- Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!!/Rina, 1/14/06, by Debby.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Susy, 1/14/06, by Alison.
- Re: Flighted Birds......Scott/Alison, 1/14/06, by Alison.
- Re: Woof., 1/14/06, by Cassima.
- Re: cassima/scott, 1/14/06, by magia.
- Re: Scott about the "woofer", 1/14/06, by Jim.
- Re: Scott about the "woofer"..Jim, 1/14/06, by Scott.
- Re: ...woof..., 1/15/06, by Cassie.
- Re: ...woof..., 1/15/06, by Jim.
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