On 1/13/06, Debby wrote:
> Read through this whole thread with interest and an open mind. BUT when he says
> that you can train a small child to not go somewhere where they are not
> to, I draw the line.
> Tell me how is a crawler of 9 or 10 months old, even a year or 18 months,
> supposed to know the dangers of opening up cabinets and getting to poisen, or
> falling down the stairs without a gate?
> Scott did you raise your children alone? I think maybe your wife did have
> something to do with it yes? Im sure if you asked your wife, it took a long
> time, before a small child has the knowledge to know what is good and bad for
> them. I am the mother of 4, and I did use gates at the steps, playpens, etc.
> They are not at the age of understanding yet when they first learn to crawl.
> that simple.
> Now the clipping thing, that seems to come up on this board time and time
> As I do understand people wanting to keep their birds fully flighted, in my
> opinion it is not in the birds best interest being a domesticated animal. I
> to see how clipping a few flight wings so they glide, is compared to cutting
> a childs legs. I believe this thread has gotten out of hand, and utterly
> rediculous at this point.
> Before when this was raised, people agreed to disagree, why can't you do that
> now? No one is going to win this battle of "to clip or not to clip". If you
> dont't want to clip fine, if you do thats fine as well. But the name calling ,
> the bickering is starting to get juvenile at this point. As I said before if
> don't want to clip, don't, if you do, thats fine as well. It doesn't make the
> "non clipper" any better of a person then the "clipper".
> Personally I clip, a nice soft few feather clip. My birds are thriving, and
> happy. I excersise them every day with fly...fly fly....they flap their wings
> till there is no tomorrow! They have all been vet checked and given a clean
> of health. They are emotionally stable as well. To those of you who choose not
> to clip, thats your decision. Just hope one day we don't see your post on the
> Lost board of Birdmart cause the door was open when the bird was flying!
> PS. Hello to all that know me, been awhile since I posted here.
>>>>> So let me get this straight, if you had a child, would you completely
>>>>> shut them off from the parts of your house that may potentially be a
>>>>> danger to them?
>>>> ABSOLUTELY! And I do have a child. If you had children you would know
>>>> that they learn to walk, long before they have the capacity to understand
>>>> danger. I had gates keeping my child safe from injury in the two most
>>>> dangerous rooms in ANY home. The Kitchen and the Bathroom. -Alison-
>>> WOW so you cage your children! That explains alot. I guess I am just
>>> lucky because my children are smart enough to understand the word no and
>>> know to stay away form danger, even as crawlers. -Scott-
>> You just went flying past pathetic and obsurd, and straight into just plain
>> stupid and obnoxious. Keeping a child out of the kitchen and bathroom is
>> not 'caging' them you imbicile. -Alison-
Thanks for your input Debbie but you do not know me, my wife or my children, my
wife and I parent together and she does not do things behind my back, so i know
that is not the case. Children can be taught to stay out of danger at an early
age if you "child or bird" proof your home.