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Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!!
Posted by Scott on 1/13/06

    On 1/13/06, Debby wrote:
    > Read through this whole thread with interest and an open mind. BUT when he says
    > that you can train a small child to not go somewhere where they are not
    supposed
    > to, I draw the line.
    >
    > Tell me how is a crawler of 9 or 10 months old, even a year or 18 months,
    > supposed to know the dangers of opening up cabinets and getting to poisen, or
    > falling down the stairs without a gate?
    >
    > Scott did you raise your children alone? I think maybe your wife did have
    > something to do with it yes? Im sure if you asked your wife, it took a long
    > time, before a small child has the knowledge to know what is good and bad for
    > them. I am the mother of 4, and I did use gates at the steps, playpens, etc.
    > They are not at the age of understanding yet when they first learn to crawl.
    Its
    > that simple.
    >
    > Now the clipping thing, that seems to come up on this board time and time
    again.
    > As I do understand people wanting to keep their birds fully flighted, in my
    > opinion it is not in the birds best interest being a domesticated animal. I
    fail
    > to see how clipping a few flight wings so they glide, is compared to cutting
    off
    > a childs legs. I believe this thread has gotten out of hand, and utterly
    > rediculous at this point.
    >
    > Before when this was raised, people agreed to disagree, why can't you do that
    > now? No one is going to win this battle of "to clip or not to clip". If you
    > dont't want to clip fine, if you do thats fine as well. But the name calling ,
    > the bickering is starting to get juvenile at this point. As I said before if
    you
    > don't want to clip, don't, if you do, thats fine as well. It doesn't make the
    > "non clipper" any better of a person then the "clipper".
    >
    > Personally I clip, a nice soft few feather clip. My birds are thriving, and
    very
    > happy. I excersise them every day with fly...fly fly....they flap their wings
    > till there is no tomorrow! They have all been vet checked and given a clean
    bill
    > of health. They are emotionally stable as well. To those of you who choose not
    > to clip, thats your decision. Just hope one day we don't see your post on the
    > Lost board of Birdmart cause the door was open when the bird was flying!
    >
    > PS. Hello to all that know me, been awhile since I posted here.
    >
    > Debby
    >
    >
    >>>>> So let me get this straight, if you had a child, would you completely
    >>>>> shut them off from the parts of your house that may potentially be a
    >>>>> danger to them?
    >>>> ____________________________________________________
    >>>> ABSOLUTELY! And I do have a child. If you had children you would know
    >>>> that they learn to walk, long before they have the capacity to understand
    >>>> danger. I had gates keeping my child safe from injury in the two most
    >>>> dangerous rooms in ANY home. The Kitchen and the Bathroom. -Alison-
    >>>
    >>> _____________________________________________________________________
    >>>
    >>> WOW so you cage your children! That explains alot. I guess I am just
    >>> lucky because my children are smart enough to understand the word no and
    >>> know to stay away form danger, even as crawlers. -Scott-
    >> _________________________________________________
    >> You just went flying past pathetic and obsurd, and straight into just plain
    >> stupid and obnoxious. Keeping a child out of the kitchen and bathroom is
    >> not 'caging' them you imbicile. -Alison-
    ______________________________________________________________________

    Thanks for your input Debbie but you do not know me, my wife or my children, my
    wife and I parent together and she does not do things behind my back, so i know
    that is not the case. Children can be taught to stay out of danger at an early
    age if you "child or bird" proof your home.

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