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Re: cassima/scott
Posted by magia on 1/14/06

Ok, first of all, how does one "mutilate" a subject? Second, I think all the angry talk
is exactly why we don't get anywhere with this subject. I would love to sit down with all
of you in a room and really talk about this subject. I feel that wing-clipping is such a
serious matter and it is one that needs to be worked out with research, knowledge, and a
better understanding of parrot psychology and health. On the facts, I do agree with scott
and patsy - we must start thinking outside of the opinions of a few, rather uneducated
parrot book writers, like mattie sue athan for example. I don't mean to pick on her in
particular, but she has been one of the most vocal and well-published advocates of
clipping wings. I really think that we could have a great discussion if everyone would
reaad the article at www.theparrotuniversity.com and talk about the information that is
presented instead of just writing it off. -magia

On 1/14/06, Cassima wrote:
> Nor does your "caging children" influence. Checkmate, bucko.
>
> Stop trying to change or mutilate the subject of this lousy debate. You started
> this "caging children", Patsy started this "refer to this poo article for why parrots
> should not be clipped", so don't make it look like you are the Saint of THIS
> conversation.
>
> And that crap about "clipping is like cutting of children's legs"? Well, opinions are
> like pimples; everyone has at least one even if it can't be seen.
>
> For being a "fountain of knowledge", the waters are sure stagnent. Even my parents
> having eight kids and a menagerie of pets within the houshold, we still had time to
> spend with our dearest Senna, and my parents are able to give her everything she needs
> to flurish into smart and caring individual. Birds have more "human" characteristics
> then people give them credit for, and when they are in a different environment then a
> wild-type habitat, they appropriate themselves into that environment the best they can
> (in short, they ADAPT).
>
> On 1/13/06, Scott wrote:
>> This has nothing to do with wing clipping -Scott-

Posts on this thread, including this one

• Flighted Birds......, 1/11/06, by Patsy.
• Re: Flighted Birds.Good for you Patsy intelligence shows, 1/11/06, by Jim.
• Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/11/06, by Bluebird.
• Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/11/06, by Alison.
• Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/11/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/11/06, by MKay.
• Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Patsy.
• Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Alison.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Alison.
• Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by Alison.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Alison.
• Re: I am YET to be convinced, and points to ponder, 1/12/06, by Cassima.
• Re: Flighted Birds..Scott/Guess this bird wasn't trained?, 1/12/06, by FYI.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Jim.
• Re: Errors in your comparisons., 1/12/06, by Cassie.
• Re: I'm laughing ALOT, 1/12/06, by Cassima.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Bluebird.
• Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Cassima.
• Re: The Reason for Flight is a Happier and Healthier Bird..., 1/12/06, by Patsy.
• Re: Flighted Birds......, 1/12/06, by MKay.
• Re: The Reason for Flight is a Happier and Healthier Bird..., 1/12/06, by to Jim, Patsy, and Scott with love.
• Re: The Reason for Flight is a Happier and Healthier Bird..., 1/12/06, by Oh, the HORROR.
• Re: The Reason for Flight is a Happier and Healthier Bird..., 1/12/06, by hope for the future!.
• Re: I may be crippled...., 1/12/06, by Very Unhappy Bird.
• Re: Still a crappy site, nonetheless., 1/12/06, by Cassima.
• Re: There companion birds not wild birds, 1/12/06, by Lyn.
• Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Blue bird.
• Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Cassie.
• Re: There companion birds not wild birds, 1/12/06, by Cassie.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Jim.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Cassie.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by to Jim.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Cassie.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Jim.
• Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Alison.
• Re: Woops... Really to Jim... My bad, 1/12/06, by Cassie ^_^*.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Alison.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by MKay.
• Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Bluebird.
• Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by MKay.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Bluebird.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by MKay.
• Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Bluebird.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. MKay and Cassima, 1/12/06, by Jimbo.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. MKay and Cassima, 1/12/06, by MKay to Jimbo.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Bluebird.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds..Scott/Guess this bird wasn't trained?, 1/12/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Scott.
• Re: Being stepped on is still no reason for flight, bluebird, 1/12/06, by Scott.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by MKay.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Cassima.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Especially for Bluebird.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by better for children...
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Cass.
• Re: Birds have a right to fly. , 1/12/06, by Scott.
• Re: "Parrots for Dummies" is a great resource, 1/12/06, by Cassie.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/12/06, by Alison.
• Re: Are you an only child, Scott?, 1/12/06, by Cassima.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Scott.
• Re: Are you an only child, Scott?, 1/13/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Alison.
• Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!!, 1/13/06, by Debby.
• Re: You still have no room to talk, Scott., 1/13/06, by Cassima.
• Re: You people are so desperate..., 1/13/06, by Patsy.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Susy.
• Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! , 1/13/06, by Jim.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Alison.
• Re: You would think so, Patsy., 1/13/06, by Cassie.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Cassima.
• Re: More flight Info, 1/13/06, by Patsy.
• Re: More flight Info -repost, 1/13/06, by Patsy.
• Re: More flight Info -repost again, 1/13/06, by Patsy.
• Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up the good work , 1/13/06, by Jim.
• Re: What was that crap?, 1/13/06, by Cassie.
• Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up the good work , 1/13/06, by Alison.
• Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! /Jim, 1/13/06, by Debby.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott/Alison, 1/13/06, by Debby.
• Re: Toilet seats SHOULD be left up!, 1/13/06, by Jimbo.
• Re: Toilet seats SHOULD be left up!, 1/13/06, by Alison.
• Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! , 1/13/06, by to Jim.
• Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! /Jim, 1/13/06, by Debby.
• Re: Couldn't be silent anymore! o.k. No Name, 1/13/06, by Jimbo .
• Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! /Jim, 1/13/06, by I am Jim.
• Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!!/Debby, 1/13/06, by Rina.
• Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!!, 1/13/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flight for Avian Rights, 1/13/06, by Magia.
• Re: You still have no room to talk, Scott., 1/13/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up ..you too jim, 1/13/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up the good work , 1/13/06, by Scott.
• Re: aviary and flight for cassie, 1/13/06, by Magia.
• Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!! /Jim, 1/13/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott/Alison, 1/13/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up the good work , 1/13/06, by Alison.
• Re: aviary and flight for cassie, 1/13/06, by Alison.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott/Alison, 1/13/06, by Alison.
• Re: Flight for Avian Rights/Magie...P.S, 1/13/06, by Alison.
• Re: You still have no room to talk, Scott., 1/13/06, by Cassie.
• Re: aviary and flight for cassie, 1/13/06, by Cassima.
• Re: Flighted Birds. Patsy and Scott keep up the good work , 1/13/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott/Alison, 1/13/06, by Scott.
• Re: You still have no room to talk, Scott., 1/13/06, by Scott.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott, 1/13/06, by Susy.
• Re: Couldn't be silent anymore!!/Rina, 1/14/06, by Debby.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Susy, 1/14/06, by Alison.
• Re: Flighted Birds......Scott/Alison, 1/14/06, by Alison.
• Re: Woof., 1/14/06, by Cassima.
• Re: cassima/scott, 1/14/06, by magia.
• Re: Scott about the "woofer", 1/14/06, by Jim.
• Re: Scott about the "woofer"..Jim, 1/14/06, by Scott.
• Re: ...woof..., 1/15/06, by Cassie.
• Re: ...woof..., 1/15/06, by Jim.