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Re: Wing Clipping
Posted by Emma on 6/02/05
KarenH, The list of lost birds you sent me is very sad and I am sorry for all the owners who have lost their birds. However I still feel that wing clipping isn't the best thing to do. Had these owners been more careful the birds wouldn't have escaped. None of mine ever have, and I've had them since I was 11. All the list of accidents was also very sad, but none of my birds have ever flown into a window, I credit them with more intelligence than that. Lucky knows exactly where the windows are. Also something people post on here a lot is about birds flying into kitchens, teflon pans etc. If you do not let the bird into the kitchen then these situations wouldn't arise. I am not suggesting you give a bird free run of a house, as that would be irresponsible with all the dangers. It is, however, possible to birdproof one room and only let the birds out in this room. That is what I do, and this room in my case is a 30ft conservatory. Wouldn't you think that a bird who can come to you of his own accord feels more respect for you than one which is clipped and thus totally vulnerable and dependent. If Lucky doesn't like how we're stroking him, or he feels like some food, or whatever, he can quite easily fly back onto his cage or around onto the ceiling. Ceiling fans are also mentioned. There is a ceiling fan in our conservatory, and Lucky often goes and sits on it. To get him off it when it's time for him to go away, we just have to call him and he responds. The feeling of honour you get from having a bird come to you even when you're going to put them away is one of great honour I think. He's beautiful when he flies and it's something I could never take away from him. It is still my firm belief that if you are prepared to birdproof ONE room and spend time with your bird, it is possible to keep a bird safely unclipped. And no I don't think it is a bad idea to neuter dogs and spay cats because it is in their best interests. All I have in mind here is the welfare of the birds, I'm not under some strange delusion. In my opinion it is quite cruel to deny a bird the right to fly, especially when it could fly safely and happily. Do you think in Europe everyone clips their bird's wings? No. And are there hundreds of thousands of cases of birds flying into windows or being killed some other way as a direct result of having flight? No. If you chose next moult not to clip your bird(s) I swear you would never go back to clipping. A bird without flight is like a fish without water. Thanks very much Julie for the links and board, I will definitely get in touch :) Thank you everyone for such lively responses!
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Why you shouldn't wing clip, 6/01/05, by Emma.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 6/01/05, by Emma.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 6/01/05, by Emma.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info/Emma, 6/01/05, by that was outa hand.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 6/01/05, by Emma.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info/Emma, 6/01/05, by Emma.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 6/01/05, by Julie.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip/Some rebuttal, 6/01/05, by Rachel B.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip/Some rebuttal, 6/01/05, by Maui.
- Re: Here are 174 reasons you SHOULD CLIP WINGS, 6/01/05, by KarenH.
- Re: Here are 174 reasons you SHOULD CLIP WINGS, 6/01/05, by Robin P..
- Re: Here are 174 reasons // great call, Karen!, 6/01/05, by MKay.
- Re: We can't protect them 24/7 (Long), 6/01/05, by Amanda & LeBron.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 6/02/05, by Emma.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 6/02/05, by Alison.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 6/02/05, by Emma.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 6/02/05, by Are we done yet?.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 6/02/05, by Emma.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 6/02/05, by Emma.
- Re: Wing Clipping/ , 6/02/05, by Fran.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 6/02/05, by Alison.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 6/02/05, by Alison.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 6/02/05, by Emma.
- Re: Wing Clipping/Emma, 6/02/05, by wow. .
- Re: Ahh youth, 5 years experience w/birds makes her an expert!, 6/02/05, by KarenH.
- Re: What the hell..., 6/02/05, by Emma.
- Re: What the hell..., 6/02/05, by Kitty.J.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 6/02/05, by Kitty.J.
- Re: Wing Clipping, in my house- not in option to not do, 6/02/05, by Stacy.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 8/13/05, by Dave.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 8/13/05, by MKay to Left Coast Dave.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 8/13/05, by Robin P..
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 8/13/05, by MKay.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 8/14/05, by ParrotLady3 .
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 8/14/05, by ParrotLady3 .
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 8/15/05, by Stacy.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 8/30/05, by Lucy.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 8/30/05, by Debbie.
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- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 4/02/07, by Sunny Flew Away.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 4/03/07, by Kelsi.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 4/03/07, by Kelsi.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip yet more info, 4/21/07, by Sam.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip, 7/21/07, by Sandi.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip, 7/21/07, by duh.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 9/07/07, by Trena.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 9/13/07, by ljhassell.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 9/29/07, by Mj.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 9/29/07, by Mj.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/02/07, by Lost parrots.
- Re: Wing Clipping, 10/02/07, by opinion.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/03/07, by Mj.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/03/07, by Dead bird recipe.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/03/07, by Meeko's Mom.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/03/07, by To Kitty J, Mercedes and or MJ.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/08/07, by Mj.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/08/07, by Mj.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/08/07, by Mj.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/08/07, by bob.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/08/07, by bob.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/08/07, by for Bob.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/09/07, by TO KittyJ..
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/09/07, by To KITTY J..
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/09/07, by to bob.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/09/07, by Meeko's Mom.
- Re: Alas it is I, 10/09/07, by Mj.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/09/07, by The NEW Dr. Laura!!!.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/11/07, by Not mother to THIS brat.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/13/07, by Kitty.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/13/07, by Aunt Bea.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/13/07, by Kitty.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/13/07, by Kitty Please Answer This.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/13/07, by An Old Timer.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 10/15/07, by Kitty.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 11/07/07, by Kelsi.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 12/10/07, by Diana.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 12/10/07, by Rick.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip//Shouldnt be clipped, 12/13/07, by electra.
- Re: Here are 174 reasons, 7/11/10, by Ekkiegirl.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip, 7/27/10, by Lisa.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip, 9/10/10, by Marianne.
- Re: Why you shouldn't wing clip, 4/12/12, by bill.
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