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Re: GSE/Where can I get this? let me explain/To Paul
Posted by Michael L on 11/03/05

    On 11/02/05, Kel wrote:
    I was also interesed in what she and Michael had to say about how
    > it works on humans, especially cold sores and nails etc. I would not treat a
    > bird, however I would treat myself.

    Kel,
    My experience with GSE has been positive. I would not hesitate to tell you to
    feel comfortable with using it on your birds. As Karen mentioned, it doesn't do
    the harm that some would have you believe and it certainly is not a panacea for
    all ailments.
    In regards to the Klebsiella bacteria that Paul mentioned, many years ago I had
    some finches imported from Belgium. Three of them were affected with this
    bacteria. I wouldn't have thought to use GSE as, after many vet visits and two
    powerful antibiotics over the course of months, it finally was eliminated. GSE
    would not have been able to touch something this severe.
    I use mine in the water when I soak seed and use it to disinfect sprouts. You
    can add a drop to the drinking water of birds to keep bacteria at bay in the
    water dish. I've not had the problem, but I have breeder friends that have used
    it in mild cases of yeast infections in birds that are being hand fed.
    I've not used it for cleaning as I think it would take an exorbitant amount to
    make it effective when doing such a large task.
    I've also used it to clean hand feeding spoons and thermometers, etc.
    As far as my personal use, I had a fungal infection under a fingernail. My
    doctor actually told me to soak my finger in vinegar for 10 minute intervals
    twice a day. He said that that was effective and less harmful than the drugs
    that are used to tret this condition. Rather than doing that, I rubbed the GSE
    directly on to the fingernail two or three times a day. It took a while, but the
    fungus was eliminated.
    Do I think that GSE is the end-all-be-all. No. But I do believe that it has a
    valid position in bird/animal keeping.
    I have a progressive avain vet that is always willing to listen to what I have to
    say and we discuss theories and options for using products such as this. Not all
    vets might be so engaging so if you do seek the advice of your vet, be prepared
    for the posdsiblility that he may not endorse something like this.

    Michael L

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