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Re: Lyn

Posted by Michael L on 12/19/05
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    On 12/19/05, Lyn wrote:
    > Michael,
    >
    > I don't know if you remember me but I can't find my
    > original post. You had asked me to let you know what the
    > necroscopy results were on my parrolet. He died from
    > cirrhosis of the liver. This was caused by aflatoxins in
    > the seeds. They are in the grains and legumes. This is
    > common from what I have been told and you can't see it by
    > the naked eye. I'm starting my birds on millk thistle.
    > Hopefully this will help if my other birds have this also
    > and maybe prevent it from happening.
    >
    > I'm a little upset because the vet didn't tell me about
    > it. He told me there was nothing I could do. I'm the one
    > that read about it and asked him if it would be ok and if
    > it could possibly help. He told be yes it could and
    > wouldn't hurt my birds. My love birds are all still doing
    > good along with our pet cockatiel. I think they must be
    > tougher that parrolets. I even give the wild birds the
    > seeds I empty every day. There is alway seeds left and I
    > hate to throw them in the trash. I put them out for the
    > wild birds. I've probably killed some of them also. I'm
    > going to check into a different diet possibly that leaves
    > grains and legumes out. I don't know I have alot of
    > reading to do. The vet did say that it is in what human's
    > eat also. I had read that the FDA had approved so much
    > can be in what we eat. He said that they run corn under a
    > black light. This apparently shows it. Maybe I should
    > just get a black light. This should be an essential part
    > of every breeds supplies.

    Thanks for the update, Lyn. Knowing doesn't make it easier,
    but at least you can deal with the problem.
    Aflotoxins are common in raw peanuts and some other foods, as
    you found out, that are served raw or natural.
    If you don't alreasy, you could start to improve your birds
    diet by serving them cooked beans/legumes and grains. This
    would kill the potential bacteria and you would still be
    serving them nurtitious food.
    A natural food that serves to detoxify the liver and system
    of birds is dandelion. In it's natural form, the greens are
    readily accepted by many birds. All the parts of the plant
    are edible. You can harvest your own when they are in season
    if you get them from areas that aren't sprayed or treated.
    You can also buy dandelion greens in the produce section of
    your grocery. If you harvest your own, the roots are
    especially good.
    The milk thistle you mentioned is something that I've not
    tried, but have read about it.
    Another detoxifier is aloe vera juice. Equal parts in their
    water served once a week helps to give the system a
    beneficial cleaning. It also doesn't upset the good gut
    flora.
    I hope you can get this under control and you don't lose any
    more birds.
    Thanks again for the update.

    Michael L