Re: Losing Babies-Any ideas???![]()
Posted by paul on 2/26/12
On 12/15/11, Jenn wrote:
> On 12/15/11, Jenn wrote:
>> On 11/28/11, Debbie wrote:
>>> On 11/19/11, Hannah wrote:
>>>> On 9/12/11, At Wit's end wrote:
>>>>> Would appreciate any input/experience with this. Lost many
>>>>> babies parrots of various species to unknown reasons. All
>>>>> were between ages of 5 weeks to almost 5 months. All at
>>>>> various stages of handfeeding. Symptoms include slow crop,
>>>>> weakness, weight loss, passing only urates and eventual
>>>>> death. Some developed swollen abdomens causing blockage of
>>>>> waste. Excess vomiting prelude to loss. Two newly weaned 5
>>>>> mt olds were fine then suddenly were found ruffled, weak,
>>>>> not moving about, drinking excessive amounts of water.
>>>>> Death occured within 12 hrs of all symptoms. Blood testing
>>>>> done on all for Polyoma, Psciticcosis, Pacheos, PBFD and
>>>>> PDD. Autopsy showed nothing unusual with any organs. Vent
>>>>> swab positive for viral bacteria on only 2 babies. Baytril,
>>>>> Relafin, Pedialyte and mineral oil given to all. Also tried
>>>>> papaya juice and Maalox. Handfeeding formula changed and
>>>>> pro-biotic enzymes added. Majority of babies were Amazons.
>>>>> 90&37; loss. Other species, Ekkies, Conures, mini Macawa,
>>>> 100&37;
>>>>> loss. Some were out and interacting with other baby birds;
>>>>> (no problems with any of them) some never left the
>>>>> isolation of the incubators. Any help with this sudden and
>>>>> devastating situation is much appreciated Has anyone ever
>>>>> experienced this
>>>>
>>>> Were they checked for a crop fungus?
>>>
>>> Something encountered years ago but you don't hear too much
>>> about it is Cryptosporidium. It's been a long time but I
>>> beleive it was transmitted by water. We lost mostly macaws
>>> then but that was what was in the nursery. The only thing that
>>> helped was a fish antibiotic used in the water. If you have a
>>> well and not public water you could check that.
>>
>>
>> Hm..I'll have to check that out because over the summer my birds
>> got sick for no apparent reason. After 15 years of having parrots
>> and nothing going wrong, my youngest male eclectus, who was 2,
>> died. Just wasnt acting right for a few days, lost weight and
>> went into seizures in my hands. Immediately after that..and I
>> mean while I was cleaning his cage out after burying him, my
>> oldest female who was 11, fell off her perch. Got her to the
>> avian clinic where she stayed for almost 2 weeks. In that time
>> one of my baby ekkies that I nearly had weaned...and sold...died
>> in the same vet from the same unknown cause. Loss of weight,
>> rapidly..etc. Long story short, they ran every test known and
>> nothing came up but she my older female was responding to baytril.
>> She came home 2 weeks later with some meds, some calcium
>> drops..ended up recovering just fine. But it's disheartening to
>> not even know what it was..and scary to think something like that
>> may come back, simply because you don't know what it was. The
>> water table was really low at the time because it didnt rain for
>> weeks and we do have well water. After she came home I did put
>> them on bottled water...I'll have to look into that
Cryptosporidium.
>
> And another thing about it...my male ekkie, my other female ekkie
> and my african grey weren't affected. Talk about being
hysterical.