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Re: Losing Babies-Any ideas???

Posted by paul on 2/26/12
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    On 12/15/11, Jenn wrote:
    > On 12/15/11, Jenn wrote:
    >> On 11/28/11, Debbie wrote:
    >>> On 11/19/11, Hannah wrote:
    >>>> On 9/12/11, At Wit's end wrote:
    >>>>> Would appreciate any input/experience with this. Lost many
    >>>>> babies parrots of various species to unknown reasons. All
    >>>>> were between ages of 5 weeks to almost 5 months. All at
    >>>>> various stages of handfeeding. Symptoms include slow crop,
    >>>>> weakness, weight loss, passing only urates and eventual
    >>>>> death. Some developed swollen abdomens causing blockage of
    >>>>> waste. Excess vomiting prelude to loss. Two newly weaned 5
    >>>>> mt olds were fine then suddenly were found ruffled, weak,
    >>>>> not moving about, drinking excessive amounts of water.
    >>>>> Death occured within 12 hrs of all symptoms. Blood testing
    >>>>> done on all for Polyoma, Psciticcosis, Pacheos, PBFD and
    >>>>> PDD. Autopsy showed nothing unusual with any organs. Vent
    >>>>> swab positive for viral bacteria on only 2 babies. Baytril,
    >>>>> Relafin, Pedialyte and mineral oil given to all. Also tried
    >>>>> papaya juice and Maalox. Handfeeding formula changed and
    >>>>> pro-biotic enzymes added. Majority of babies were Amazons.
    >>>>> 90&37; loss. Other species, Ekkies, Conures, mini Macawa,
    >>>> 100&37;
    >>>>> loss. Some were out and interacting with other baby birds;
    >>>>> (no problems with any of them) some never left the
    >>>>> isolation of the incubators. Any help with this sudden and
    >>>>> devastating situation is much appreciated Has anyone ever
    >>>>> experienced this
    >>>>
    >>>> Were they checked for a crop fungus?
    >>>
    >>> Something encountered years ago but you don't hear too much
    >>> about it is Cryptosporidium. It's been a long time but I
    >>> beleive it was transmitted by water. We lost mostly macaws
    >>> then but that was what was in the nursery. The only thing that
    >>> helped was a fish antibiotic used in the water. If you have a
    >>> well and not public water you could check that.
    >>
    >>
    >> Hm..I'll have to check that out because over the summer my birds
    >> got sick for no apparent reason. After 15 years of having parrots
    >> and nothing going wrong, my youngest male eclectus, who was 2,
    >> died. Just wasnt acting right for a few days, lost weight and
    >> went into seizures in my hands. Immediately after that..and I
    >> mean while I was cleaning his cage out after burying him, my
    >> oldest female who was 11, fell off her perch. Got her to the
    >> avian clinic where she stayed for almost 2 weeks. In that time
    >> one of my baby ekkies that I nearly had weaned...and sold...died
    >> in the same vet from the same unknown cause. Loss of weight,
    >> rapidly..etc. Long story short, they ran every test known and
    >> nothing came up but she my older female was responding to baytril.
    >> She came home 2 weeks later with some meds, some calcium
    >> drops..ended up recovering just fine. But it's disheartening to
    >> not even know what it was..and scary to think something like that
    >> may come back, simply because you don't know what it was. The
    >> water table was really low at the time because it didnt rain for
    >> weeks and we do have well water. After she came home I did put
    >> them on bottled water...I'll have to look into that
    Cryptosporidium.
    >
    > And another thing about it...my male ekkie, my other female ekkie
    > and my african grey weren't affected. Talk about being
    hysterical.