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Re: More neglect then abuse.. And a pic!
Posted by Jessica on 11/15/05

Cassie,

Had you taken your keets to an avian vet to figure out the upper
resiratory problem? Just curious. May I recommend you test your
keets for PBFD. If they are losing an occasional feather that still
has blood in the quill, this could be a sign. Molting feathers do
not have blood in their quills. Can you see where the flight
feathers are actually cut, or are they missing altogether? PBFD can
make the flight feathers fall out, without affecting the other
feathers. You said in your message that your keet was extremely
clipped by the breeder. PBFD also makes the birds cranky and more
aggressive.

The condition of the breeder's home don't sound the greatest, and it
is not unheard of for there to be illness or disease in these cases.

This is just a thought. I would hope for you that this isn't the
problem, but it may explain a lot. If you have other birds in your
house, you will want to separate the new keets from them until you
confirm that they are not infected.


On 11/14/05, Cassie wrote:
> I just want to know what he's stressed about. I have not needed to
> give him meds in almost 4 weeks, he's totally enjoyed himself in
> taking a bath in the kitchen sink, he is within plain veiw of the
> other keet, and I let them have time together- I don't leave them
> apart for too long.
>
> I know the breeder hid some things from me, but these birds were
> VERY young when I got them. I knew nothing of budgies, so I did
not
> know six weeks was to early for hand-fed babies. As far as abuse,
> it is more neglect. When I first brought them home, the cinnimon
> was a fairly dingy color. I knew nothing about the real colors of
a
> cinnimon, until he took a bath and this vibrant blue showed
itself,
> and the dark coverts became more golden. Needless to say, the
birds
> were filthy when I brought them home.
>
> Then the un-weaned thing with the bird in text, and the
> bacterial/upper respitory infection they ended up with... The
> breeder blamed it on my "past use of teflon pans", dirty cages
with
> dirty perches (How would she know? Beats me. I would not have a
> problem with eating off the floors of my cages or standing on my
> perches- I clean them ALL the time.) and the fact I smoke. I don't
> smoke in my car or in my home- and if they were suffering from
> teflon poisoning, they would have been dead in less then a half
> hour of being in my home, and the effect of cigarette smoke would
> not effect something within the first hour that they were here. It
> takes time for smoke intusion. There is nothing that moves that
> fast that would not kill them in an hour. Meaning, I bought them
> sick. It took the lady 3 calls and one email a week for three
weeks
> after it happened before she got back with me. And, I do need to
> point out, she smoked too ^_-
>
> I found a few more feathers, and one looked like it was a blood
> feather. I hope he's moulting. I REALLY hope he's moulting.
>
> I try to reward him for being good by letting him be with his
> brother, then he blows it when he gets on top of his borther, pins
> him and starts feather pulling.
>
> I talked to another avian vet down-state from me, and she
> said "There can sometimes be mean birds born from a clutch." Makes
> sense.
>
> I can reach into the cage and say "step-up", and he does step up
> onto my hand without hesitation, but he immidiately bolts once
> outside his cage. I am concerned about this- his wings are at an
> extreme clip (done by the breeder, not me) and he falls like a
> rock. I am afraid he is going to hurt himself if he keeps this up.
> Outside the cage, he is a little crab. I know he knows step up. He
> just won't do it.
>
> It took me twenty minutes to get one shot, and this was one of the
> last pictures I took.

Posts on this thread, including this one

• Very unhappy bird owner and VERY unhappy keet., 11/11/05, by Cassie.
• Re: Very unhappy bird owner and VERY unhappy keet., 11/14/05, by Kitty.J.
• Re: Very unhappy bird owner and VERY unhappy keet., 11/14/05, by Cassie.
• Re: Very unhappy bird owner and VERY unhappy keet., 11/14/05, by jill.
• Re: More neglect then abuse.. And a pic!, 11/14/05, by Cassie.
• Re: More neglect then abuse.. And a pic!, 11/15/05, by Jessica.
• Re: More neglect then abuse.. And a pic!, 11/15/05, by Cassie.
• Re: More neglect then abuse.. And a pic!, 11/15/05, by Jessica.
• Re: Is it a myth? Female versus Male keets, 11/15/05, by Cassie.
• Re: Is it a myth? Female versus Male keets, 11/16/05, by jill.
• Re: I did something I shouldn't have done- but it worked, 11/17/05, by Cassima.
• Re: I shouldn't have done- but it worked/ In your opinion?, 11/17/05, by Jim.
• Re: I shouldn't have done- but it worked/ In your opinion?, 11/17/05, by Clare.
• Re: ...???... Woof. I feel better now. MY OPINION. Thank you., 11/18/05, by Cassie.
• Re: ...???... Woof. I feel better now. MY OPINION. Thank you, 11/18/05, by jill.
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• Re: ...???... Woof. I feel better now. MY OPINION. Thank you, 11/19/05, by Fruit Cake <3.
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