Re: ...???... Woof. I feel better now. MY OPINION. Thank you
Posted by jill on 11/18/05
some people are more sensitive about things like writing....water off a ducks back
dear.... not everyone is like that. i understood what you ment when you said rat and
smack down (wrestling right?)lol i use the word turkey alot...lol better than what
budgie really means (good to eat) i think what ever you have to do to help this bird
to overcome her issues within reason will do fine. sounds like you have a pretty good
handle on it so far...i would not give her to anyone with children under the
circumstances. a breeder may not be a great idea, but if you just have to give her up
at least she'd be taken care of most likely....most breeders spend alot of time with
thier birds. i would think i would give her at least a couple of good months before i
gave up on her. sometimes the worst animals wind up to be the best companions when
given a chance. hope all goes well dear...good luck, jill
On 11/18/05, Cassie wrote:
> I do not appriciate the crticality of these past two responces. Words are words, and
> it is my event to tell, and I told it MY way. Tis freedom of speech. I did not curse
> nor did I attack anyone with the written word; nothing was stated that should have
> offended anyone. I did, after all, admit my spur-of-the-moment reaction was uncalled
> for, however, if "smack-down" is so bad, would you prefer "bi!(h-beaked"? I can get
> uber-discriptive if you would rather, but everything I write is honest to the events
> that took place. Did you even read the whole story on what I am going through with
> this bird? I came looking for help and ended up with a drill because of salty
> language. Even if my words were a "little strong", I say again, freedom of speech.
> There are stronger words out there, and you should be happy I feigned from using
> those- I do not think I need to elaborate on what those words are.
> Please try not to make assuptions on people you don't know. You seem to be
> individuals, however I have never posted to you, or read posts by you to me until
> now, and as far as being vicious, thank you. Most co-workers and freinds consider me
> a pussycat and that I don't have a back bone and crumble at the sight of something
> cute. I just find it funny you find me so... cold and abusive. How's that for nice
> words from me ^_-
> I have had my birds for five years myself in my own home; buying the food, paying
> care, giving them the best of the best in everything possible- but I had a macaw
> since age 7 until six years ago (in case you want to flame me for this, I moved out
> of my parents house into my own home and they wanted to keep Ivy. I want to nip this
> in the tucker before anyone else does). Lock me up, I would do fine.
> Just curious; how would you so eloquently state such an eventful morning?
> "I gentaly quaked my arm to get the budgie to release me from her not-so-tender
> beaking on my finger that broke skin into the cage of a cockatiel where the overly-
> upset budgie got a love-tap on the head from the teil, and the I went out for tea
> crumpets because the world was a utopia again."
> You have got to be kidding me. It's better to call someone a "rat" versus other
> fragrant words in the English volcabulary. When you get suprized, I'm certainly sure
> a few of those colorful little words pass through your mind, and maybe out via a
> of the tongue. I did not expect Ginger to grab hold and not let go. Right now, one
> my birds is to the point of talking and picking up phrases- I can't just stub my toe
> and say the usual dock-worker lingo. That last thing I need to do is have my
> grandmother come over and hear one of my birds go "Son of a monkey lovin' bannana!"
> would prefer to hear a verbose "RAT!" then see grandma have a heart attack.
> It's not the happiness of one, but the happiness of all. I have had to take a lot of
> time away from the rest of my birds to focus on this problem, and this is the first
> time it has been any different. There are only three ways she can go- get better,
> stay the same or get worse. If she gets better, she is more then welcome in my home.
> If she stays the same, I will keep her around to try to cure some of the symptems of
> what ever mental issue she has and give her a different outlit for it then fingers
> and earlobes. I have been bitten by a bigger bird, and it was MUCH worse, but for a
> youngling that has yet to be five months old, this should not be happening. If she
> gets worse, I have to re-home her. She did not have a great start off at life, and
> that is not my fault, but I refuse to have any bird in my home with a volitile
> temperment that could possibly harm a child the way it has harmed me; I fear for my
> birds' lives because of this. You can't slap a bird, so how could that child react
> a bite? I am not willing to let that happen, no matter how remote the possibility.
> And I'm sure everyone else in the world has had all perfect little angels fly into
> their home knowing step-up and have the greatest personality.
> My birds are highly supervised by me, and when I am not in the room, they are in
> their seperate cages. I bought those special flight cages that are 25 by 16 or
> something- lots of room for a single bird, and if needed, two or three could be in
> one comfortably for a short time, like for trips to see the vet when I wrangle the
> flock together for a vet visit. I never took my eyes off the cage when I had them in
> the cage together for the first time. At that, Ginger never gave me a problem the
> whole day and actually stepped-up on command. Kudos.
> And as far as "genuine love and concern for birds", both of my cockatiels are
> rescues, one from the MASPCA (a freind who works with them tried to help me find a
> kitten to adopt, but I found Vigo instead) and the other is from someone who found
> them in the back yard and did not want him. A breeder gave me Myst because she was
> much older then what people look for in birds. If I did not have any "love"
> or "concern", they might not be here in my home in my life and loved and come first
> in ANY decision I make, or I could be like every other person who wants to see
> signs and buy a couple females and make babies. I take other people's animals to the
> vet if they cannot afford it. Do you? What I do is NOT at all for the owner, it is
> what is best for the companian.
> I have three other birds I have to think about. Before I took in the budgies, I gave
> a teil to my sister because she was a troublemaker, really hated being around other
> birds and caused too much rukus when the other two did their natural behaviors. I
> not do it as a favor for my sister, I did it for Myst, the cockatiel, and she is SO
> much happier now, and her attitude changed. She had to be in a home where she was
> only center of attention. Along that same line, I would never give this keet to
> someone who does not have experience with birds nor give it as a "pet" to a family
> new bird owners that have no clue the kind of issues this bird has and what she
> I'm still learning about her. If it does not improve any, I will have to resort to
> giving her to a breeder. My sister offered to take her, but with the way Myst is, I
> don't want to destory Myst's new-found happiness.
> In closing: My only indulgance is chocolate, and my birds are my priority. Just
> because I did not word my post the same as you "would have" does not make me a bad
> person. If you were an English professor working on a text critique, then I care. If
> not, I'm sorry, but what is posted is posted- I can't change it. The chastizing
> to/about me about irrelevant items does not help solve Ginger's problems.
> If you have any other comments on the faults of my style of writing, please allow me
> to direct you to the Socail Board where irrelevent topics like this, that are non-
> avian, are welcome and I would address them and pop in every now and again for a
> special appearance if they were specificly about ME. I do not mind debating things
> about me that most people do not know.
> On 11/17/05, Clare wrote:
>> On 11/17/05, Jim wrote:
>>> You sure sound like one vicious female. Just wonder if you have an ounce of
>>> genuine love or concern for birds at all? You want to give her away to a breeder
>>> anyway so with a bit of luck she will be happier than with you mate. There are
>>> some people who in my opinion should be locked up in cages at least until they
>>> get the knowledge of "thinking like a bird" Far too many people think
>>> birds/animals in general are just chattells for their indulgances. Nice words
>>> from you "Rat" and "smackdown" etc.
>>> Gees some people turn me right of some people
>> Cassima, it is okay for what u did, just make sure the birds do not get hurt.I
>> agree with jim though on your words, they could have been a little strong, but just
>> try not to use those in future reference thats all