Re: Two Sides to Every Story, for the company makeing the $$
Posted by Elizabeth on 4/08/06
Yep, that is true. Everyone I know that has used it has had problems with
the product. Also, yes, the products can be used "safely" in theraputic
amounts (the ones I know had medical problems) ---but--- as not enough
research has been done with parrots to know the long term effects I would
not use it.
Personal choice, I would stick with what is NON-Toxic and is recommended
by my avian vet. Contrary to other the other avain vet said, mine said no
way no how, to risk it just isn't worth it. The aloe vera works 99% of the
time with pluckers and with any issue medical reasons should be checked
prior to any "remedy"
On 4/08/06, Michael L wrote:
> I have not used the Pluck No More Product, and am a great proponent of
> Aloe Vera juice. That being said, I do believe that the questioning and
> somewhat uninformed, deserve to at least know that there are those that
> do endorse this product and seemingly have had good results.
> What is also interesting is that "Bord Certified Avian Veterinarians,"
> which is the cornerstone of core beliefs and mantra for many Birdmart
> advisor's, might find their testimonials somewhat convincing. In
> addition, they even provide their phone numbers, web sites and
> office names.
> This product is also FDA registered which is more than can be said for
> most products that we use on our birds.
> All of the supposedly "harmful" herbs being used in this product are in
> beneficial amount/ratio that can have a positive effect rather than
> negative on the bird.
> To make this somewhat easier to understand, I'll use a dog for example.
> Arsenic is both toxic and lethal, but when a dog contracts heart worm,
> the treatment of choice is arsenic. It is used in controlled amounts
> is administered in a manner that kills or eradicates the heart worm, but
> doesn't destroy the host which is the dog.
> So too can many of these toxic herbs prove beneficial rather than
> detrimental to the plucking bird.
> As in everything, we all have the ability and right to choose what we
> consider appropriate for use on any animal entrusted to our care. But
> should also consider that there are products that have potential to
> possibly help some animals, even though we might find the ingredients
> unorthodox or harmful, due to ignorance and hearsay.
> Certainly there is always the possibility that there will be isolated
> cases where an animal has had a negative reaction to a drug or adverse
> reaction, but this is also true in humans. It's know as
> hypersensitivity, but that doesn't mean that a product shouldn't be used
> or tried because of an isolated case.
> Make wise and educated choices, but do it when you have factual
> information rather than hearsay and hypothesis.
> Michael L
> Hear what Sam Vaughn, DVM Avian Diplomate ABVP,
> Board Certified Avian Veterinarian has to say!!
> VETERINARY ASSOCIATES-STONEFIELD
> 203 Moser Road
> Louisville, KY 40223
> (502) 245-7863
> www.vetcity.com Sam Vaughn, DVM
> Avian Diplomate ABVP
> Kurt Oliver, DVM
> Karen Lazas, DVM
> May 31, 2005
> RE: Safety and Efficacy of Pluck No More
> Dear Richard:
> I was at first skeptical about your product, especially its safety.
> Therefore, as I always do, I decided to try your product on my own
> and a few special clients' birds.
> I warned these clients that this was probably another "snake oil" that
> would do nothing for their birds plucking but it seemed safe enough as
> per the label's contents. After all we bird vets have been stumped by
> feather picking for 40 years, so we would never want to admit that a
> layperson provided a cure that we could not. I am of the reverse
> philosophy. Anybody give me anything that is safe to help these birds
> I will rejoice in using it!
> I am attaching a Complete Blood Count, Chemistry Panel, and Serum
> Electrophoresis of an African Grey who was nearly bald in January of
> 2005. The bird was wearing an E-collar and had not responded to any of
> our conventional treatments for chronic feather picking. He was living a
> miserable existence as most collared birds do in my opinion.
> We started Mufasa on Pluck No More on January 25, 2005. The collar came
> off within two weeks.
> The only abnormality is a low protein which is really normal because I
> had the owner hold this bird off of food before my visit. He was without
> food for over 8 hours, thus his blood protein should be expected to be
> While I have no photos of Mufasa, he is nearly totally feathered after
> four months on your product.
> I will be forwarding you photos of my own featherpicker, Stevie, an
> Umbrella Cockatoo, four weeks on your product and she now has tail
> feathers for the first time in four years!
> Her bloodwork is pending also, hopefully these normal biochemistries of
> birds on your product will quiet the naysayers on the internet bird
> boards who say your product is dangerous. Pluck No More has not harmed
> bird, or Mufasa the African Grey and I have proven that scientifically.
> Update - 6/1/05
> Complete Blood Count and Biochemistry Analysis of my own Cockatoo
> She has been on Pluck No More since 4/2/05 - All labs normal and first
> normal tail feathers in 2-3 years.
> Samuel B. Vaughn, DVM, Avian Diplomate, ABVP, Veterinary Associates-
> Stonefield, Louisville, KY. www.vetcity.com 05/31/05
> Hear what Greg Burkett, DVM Avian Diplomate ABVP,
> Board Certified Avian Veterinarian has to say!!
> "As a practicing specialist in avian medicine, I see many cases of
> feather damaging behavior, which can be a difficult syndrome to diagnose
> and treat. Pluck-No-More has given relief to this problem for many of my
> clients and patients. I am impressed with the performance of Pluck-No-
> More. It has successfully stopped feather damaging behavior in several
> my patients. If your bird is a feather plucker, chewer or otherwise
> destroys its feathers, you owe it to your bird and yourself to try Pluck-
> No-More. This product is not a replacement for proper veterinary care."
> Greg Burkett DVM, Avian Diplomate ABVP, Board Certified Avian
> Veterinarian, Durham, NC. www.birdieboutique.com 06/07/05