On 6/02/07, Xavier wrote:
> YES, we did notice that B.P., the infamous flamboyant Chicago Hybrid Macaw Price Gouger
> has since removed all of the prices for her hybrid macaw babies off of her internet ads
> & website right around the same time that she first posted on this very same Camelot
> macaw thread. Maybe she finally noticed that other vendors online, including several
> professional parrot/macaw breeders and PETSHOPS, were selling the same kind of mixed up
> species of hybrid macaw babies for hundreds of dollars less (actually a $1,000 less in
> once case) then she has been promoting and blatantly pushing hers for. Perhaps she
> thinks that because her birds are "vet checked" that they are worth more. BUT, her vet,
> does nothing more than look at them, and never does cultures or labs. Those reports
> never come with her health checks from him, because they simply DO NOT exist. He only
> charges his clients $20 a pop, or less (depending upon eho they are) for his vet check
> services, and at those prices, trust me, you do get what you pay for! I am not knocking
> him, cause he is GREAT guy, who does a wonderful service and saves tons of money for
> his thousands of clients. He is a well loved vet for what he does, which is primarily
> service those cheap breeders who refuse to pay regular avian vet prices, for a thorough
> work-up and exam. Her clients will tell you, she produces & sells defective birds, and
> gets away with it by dropping this popular avian vet's name. Watch Out folks! In this
> case, you DO NOT get what you pay for!!!
> Further More, It is a well known fact that weaned baby hybrid macaw prices goes like
> this -
> You take the average price of a baby of each, or all, of the species involved the mix
> to come up with your hyrid pricing. For instance, if a Scarlet baby sells for $1200 and
> a Military baby for $700, then a Shamrock macaw baby sells for $950. that has always
> been the delineator, regardless of how many generations they have been bred out.
> And YES, it is ethically wrong to intentionally produce hybrid macaws solely for the
> intent of material gain!
Xavier, I'm not intereste in Macaws, hybrid or otherwise. I'm responding to
your "impression" of Dr. Scott McDonald and the services he provides.
There are many of us breeders who are not "cheap" and don't rely on him for actual
medical services whatsoever. What we "cheap" breeders do use him for is his ability to
offer surgical sexing. I can't speak for everyone, but I have an avian vet that I use
locally and couldn't live without, who provides me with the labs, stains and general
medical care, etc. that I need for my flock.
There are some of us "cheap" breeders that like to offer our potential clients the
ability to know the gender of the bird that they are purchasing. Actually, with me, no
bird leaves my aviary without being surgically sexed and tattooed, or DNA tested by Avian
Biotech when Dr. McDonald is not around.
When you have large quantities of babies to sex, $10-15 dollars is a lot less expensive
than $20 a pop from the labs.
Again, I'm not questioning what some breeders might call an exam, but please know that
Dr. McDonald provides an invaluable service to many of us "cheap" breeders.