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Re: Beautiful Baby Camelot Macaw

Posted by Jo-Ann on 6/03/07
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    On 6/02/07, Lauren wrote:
    > On 6/02/07, Xavier wrote:
    >> YES, we did notice that B.P., the infamous flamboyant Chicago Hybrid Macaw Price Gouger
    >> has since removed all of the prices for her hybrid macaw babies off of her internet ads
    >> & website right around the same time that she first posted on this very same Camelot
    >> macaw thread. Maybe she finally noticed that other vendors online, including several
    >> professional parrot/macaw breeders and PETSHOPS, were selling the same kind of mixed up
    >> species of hybrid macaw babies for hundreds of dollars less (actually a $1,000 less in
    >> once case) then she has been promoting and blatantly pushing hers for. Perhaps she
    >> thinks that because her birds are "vet checked" that they are worth more. BUT, her vet,
    >> does nothing more than look at them, and never does cultures or labs. Those reports
    >> never come with her health checks from him, because they simply DO NOT exist. He only
    >> charges his clients $20 a pop, or less (depending upon eho they are) for his vet check
    >> services, and at those prices, trust me, you do get what you pay for! I am not knocking
    >> him, cause he is GREAT guy, who does a wonderful service and saves tons of money for
    >> his thousands of clients. He is a well loved vet for what he does, which is primarily
    >> service those cheap breeders who refuse to pay regular avian vet prices, for a thorough
    >> work-up and exam. Her clients will tell you, she produces & sells defective birds, and
    >> gets away with it by dropping this popular avian vet's name. Watch Out folks! In this
    >> case, you DO NOT get what you pay for!!!
    >>
    >> Further More, It is a well known fact that weaned baby hybrid macaw prices goes like
    >> this -
    >> You take the average price of a baby of each, or all, of the species involved the mix
    >> to come up with your hyrid pricing. For instance, if a Scarlet baby sells for $1200 and
    >> a Military baby for $700, then a Shamrock macaw baby sells for $950. that has always
    >> been the delineator, regardless of how many generations they have been bred out.
    >>
    >> And YES, it is ethically wrong to intentionally produce hybrid macaws solely for the
    >> intent of material gain!
    >
    >
    > Xavier, I'm not intereste in Macaws, hybrid or otherwise. I'm responding to
    > your "impression" of Dr. Scott McDonald and the services he provides.
    > There are many of us breeders who are not "cheap" and don't rely on him for actual
    > medical services whatsoever. What we "cheap" breeders do use him for is his ability to
    > offer surgical sexing. I can't speak for everyone, but I have an avian vet that I use
    > locally and couldn't live without, who provides me with the labs, stains and general
    > medical care, etc. that I need for my flock.
    > There are some of us "cheap" breeders that like to offer our potential clients the
    > ability to know the gender of the bird that they are purchasing. Actually, with me, no
    > bird leaves my aviary without being surgically sexed and tattooed, or DNA tested by Avian
    > Biotech when Dr. McDonald is not around.
    > When you have large quantities of babies to sex, $10-15 dollars is a lot less expensive
    > than $20 a pop from the labs.
    > Again, I'm not questioning what some breeders might call an exam, but please know that
    > Dr. McDonald provides an invaluable service to many of us "cheap" breeders.
    >

    Why would you put a bird through the stress of surgery when a DNA through blood is safer?