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Re: Anyone use Red Palm Oil?

Posted by cindy on 3/02/09
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    Maybe it seemed to work well this time but I sure would be
    afraid of it building up and then the birds fussing to get it
    off and end up feather picking.

    On 3/01/09, Gwen wrote:
    > On 3/01/09, Stunned wrote:
    >> On 2/28/09, Gwen wrote:
    >>> Hi Everyone!
    >>>
    >>> I've recently noticed a few of my fids itching and
    >>> occasionally pulling pin feathers out. We've all been to
    >>> the vet to find nothing but dry skin. I don't run a
    >>> humidifier but my guys get baths pretty often. (once every
    >>> day or 2) I recently bought a case of red palm oil for
    >>> myself and I found out that it's good for our feathered
    >>> family members also! It tastes like crap to me but I use it
    >>> for my hair. I'm going to try giving it to my fids on some
    >>> toast or bananas or something but I was wondering about
    >>> giving them baths with it? Oil doesn't mix well w/ water
    >>> but that's how I use it on my hair and it has helped w/ my
    >>> dry scalp so I was wondering if anyone uses it like this
    >>> for the birds? Does it help?? Mixed w/ warm water and
    >>> shaken often??
    >>>
    >>> Any input is appreciated! Thanks Gwen
    >>
    >> Gwen,
    >> I'm going to try to remain calm when I say this, but when I
    >> read this I couldn't believe my eyes.
    >> Oil, of ANY kind, is the number one enemy when applied to
    >> feathers on ANY bird in this world.
    >> Oil compromises the integrity of what a feather is designed
    >> to do. It takes away the protective and insulating value
    >> that the bird requires.
    >> Have you never seen, read or heard the the documentaries
    >> where water fowl die when oil spills invade their water
    >> territories? Surely you've seen the birds being washed with
    >> detergent to get the residual oil off of their feathers.
    >> Many die because it is too late for them.
    >> NEVER, EVER APPLY OIL DIRECTLY TO YOUR BIRD! Your hair and
    >> scalp are nothing in comparison to the feathers of a bird.
    >> Red Palm oil is very useful and beneficial for dietary
    >> enhancement with birds. Use it as the oil in your bird bread.
    >> Mix it with the bean or rice mixture you make when it is just
    >> made and still warm. This helps to distribute it over the
    >> food. Mix some into a small amount of seed and serve it to
    >> your birds. Lightly steam some veggies for them and mix it
    >> with them when they are warm. The options are endless.
    >> The fact that you refer to your birds as "fids" implies that
    >> you have lost the concept that they are birds and not humans.
    >> Please give them the respect and understanding that they
    >> deserve as animals and NOT humans.
    >> And for Grey Lady, I'm appalled that you found nothing out of
    >> sorts with this method since you dole out information as if
    >> you are an avian diva. God help the birds in both your care.
    >
    > Well first of all it would be nice to know who you are, it
    drives me crazy when
    > people post anonymously! Second when I dip them in a vat of
    oil this will apply
    > better but thanks for the post, it was very nicely said. If
    you had read my second
    > post maybe you would not have been so quick to judge. So here
    it is again for
    > you:
    >
    > I actually tried it in their bath water ... I used about
    a tsp in a
    > Large spray bottle. Had to shake it up quite often but it
    still separated for the
    > most part. I used it on my hands first to see how much of
    the oil actually came
    > out and it felt about the same as using aloe in the
    water. All of the really thick
    > messy stuff didn't come out so it worked quite well. Now
    everyone's dry and
    > their feathers look even better now.
    >
    >
    > When I said very little came out I mean VERY LITTLE. Now if I
    were stupid enough
    > to "lather" them up with then yes your criticism was right on
    cue but since I didn't
    > .. and had you bothered to READ the posts you would know
    that ... then your
    > criticism is a preemptive strike. I do agree with you there
    are idiots out there that
    > will try that so I do understand your position .. better safe
    than sorry.
    >
    > NOW what really bothers me is you "reprimanding" me on how I
    refer to my BIRDS.
    > I cannot have CHILDREN .... SO my Birds are my FAMILY. Thank
    you for bring that
    > wonderful tidbit back into the light of day!! Really
    appreciate it! As far as I'm
    > concerned if you OWN birds and they are nothing to you than
    BIRDS then your
    > BIRDS are the ones to be pitied. Do NOT feel sorry for my
    FIDS as they are MORE
    > RESPECTED and better taken care of than 90&37; of any CHILD
    out there human, bird
    > or otherwise!! My birds are NOT cage critters NOR are they
    breeders. All but 2 are
    > rescues so don't lecture me on "how to respect them" or what
    they mean to me
    > YOU HAVE NO CLUE!!
    >
    > In conclusion: 1.)Thank you for your opinion. 2.)I'm not an
    idiot who is giving
    > their BIRDS a bath in motor oil. 3.) I will refer to my
    CHILDREN ANY WAY I WANT
    > TO!
    >
    > Now have a wonderful day as I plan to! I'm giving all of my
    FIDS new toys :-)
    > That's always a good day!
    >
    > Gwen
    >
    > GreyLady ... thank you again! You've always been a sweetheart
    to me and I
    > appreciate that! Your advice is always appreciated