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Re: Feeding birds HELP Please!
Posted by Lori on 4/16/09

    Thanks GL, I've found the same information and will continue
    what and how we have been feeding for past 27 years.Thankyou
    Reason why I dont trust certain "vet's"

    On 4/15/09, GreyLady wrote:
    > Lori. Sure heard that about the economy. I'll be
    interested
    > to hear what others have to say also. First off, on the
    > feeding of dog or cat food to a parrot, I'm personally
    > against it. This opinion comes both from my own research
    and
    > from talking to vets. Most of those foods are much too high
    > in protein for birds. Also, they can contain Ecoli.
    > Apparently it's in amounts that are easily handled by a dog
    > or cat's system but not a parrots. Some think you can get
    by
    > with it if you microwave it first. I'm not yet willng to
    > take the chance but here is an exerpt from one of Judy
    > Leach's articles:
    >
    > E-coli
    >
    > This bacteria is not fatal if it is recognized and treated.
    > It causes droppings to have the look of diarrhea and to have
    > a strong odor. This bacteria can be remedied by mixing 1/8
    > tsp. of Vetisulid per 8 ounces of water for 10-14 days.
    >
    > The E-coli bacteria is normal in human saliva. It can be
    > transmitted to a parrot by "wet" kisses and by letting them
    > eat out of your mouth. E-coli is also normal, and common, in
    > the saliva of monkeys and dogs. Therefore, it is also found
    > in dog food and some monkey biscuits. If this food is given
    > to parrots, it should be microwaved for at least 15-30
    > seconds, depending on quantity, to kill E-coli bacteria,
    > before feeding it to your birds.
    >
    > Actually, it would be better to get your bird on to a good
    > extruded pellet formulated for birds than a food that was
    > developed for another type of animal. (End of article.)
    >
    > As for what I feed, it varies just a bit because my flock
    > ranges from Tiels to a Macaw. They all get a good quality
    > seed mix that does not contain any sunflower seeds but
    still,
    > that is 20&37; or less, of their entire daily diet. For my
    > Tiels, the rest is Lafeber pellets. For the rest of the
    > flock, they get a portion of Vita Kraft Super Fruit
    > Cocktail. That is the single most expensive part of their
    > diet. Last time I priced it in a store, it was over $10 for
    > a 20 oz. container. I buy it in bulk multiples of 6, (24 at
    > a time) and I get it for About $7. each. Except for the
    > Tiels, they get Pretty Bird pellets, formulated for the type
    > of bird. (African, Macaw, etc.) They also get whole
    > walnuts, unshelled almonds and a couple Nutriberries each
    > day. Their "people" food meals are mostly whatever we are
    > having. Pasta, eggs, cooked bean and rice mixes and so on.
    > They also get fresh fruits or veggies 3 times a week. Mine
    > like some of the cooked meals on the market so to save
    money,
    > I get them but also mix in some of my own ingredients to
    make
    > the mix go further. I hate cooking so I make a big batch at
    > once, separate a daily portion into sandwich size zip locks,
    > mash flat and stack in the freezer. Here is one recipe that
    > was given to me that works well but obviously you can use
    > different items, mix and match, to keep up their interest.
    >
    > RECIPE
    > If you are making rice and beans for the family, set aside
    > some for your bird — minus any salt or other spices you've
    > added. Mix it together with peppers, chili peppers and corn
    > to make an attractive, homemade meal for your bird.
    > The key to this recipe is the mixture of textures and
    colors.
    > Your bird will love the soft rice and beans with the added
    > crunch of peppers and corn. Colorful foods can be as
    > stimulating mentally as they are healthy. In an article on
    > the benefits of cranberries, Jill Patt, DVM of the Arizona
    > Mesa Animal Hospital noted that colors are a key part of the
    > overall benefit of healthy food. “Birds enjoy colors, so a
    > mixture is not only healthy but is beneficial mentally,”
    said
    > Patt.
    >
    > Ingredients
    > 1 cup whole-grain rice
    > ¼ cup 16-bean mix
    > Colorful peppers (orange, red, green, yellow)
    > Chili pepper (fresh or dried)
    > Corn
    > Chayenne
    >
    > Cook rice and beans as instructed by their packaging. For
    > added color, use a 16-bean mix. Included in the mix are
    > various beans (red, lima, white, kidney, etc), split peas
    and
    > lentils. Let cool. When rice is cooled, sprinkle with
    > chayenne pepper.
    >
    > Thoroughly wash your peppers and corn, and when chopping,
    > remove all seeds. Add sliced peppers in whatever style you
    > like (chunks or strips), depending on the size of your bird.
    > If not dried, slice chili peppers and add to the mixture.
    Mix
    > with cold corn either in chunks or, for added fun, in tiny
    > cobs.
    >
    > Immediately wash your hands after handling chili pepper. It
    > can cause irritation to your eyes or mouth if you are not
    > careful!
    >
    > This recipe makes about 3 cups, which you can keep fresh in
    > your refrigerator for roughly three days. Your birds will
    > enjoy it cold, too!
    >
    > Hope that helps.
    > GL
    >
    >
    >
    >

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