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Re: Lovebird Mules

Posted by Dave on 9/26/06
(8) Comments

    On 9/26/06, Clyve wrote:
    > They are not mules. They are hybrids. Frowned upon by
    > those who appreciate pure bloodlines, and are against
    > creating new mutations. Mainly because the lines are muddied
    > and color combinations not as striking on the norm.
    > However, it's happened in natural as well as controlled
    > environments for many years. Nobody has proven that these
    > combinations are not able to produce their own offspring.
    > Masked and Fischers have been put together by many.
    > What do you plan to do with the babies? Will you continue to
    > allow them to colonize and breed with the rest?
    I am one of those 'purists" but I have many more reasons for
    taking on the label of 'purist'.

    Yes, your chicks are now hybrids, not mules.

    """"""What are the reasons why mules are frowned upon? What
    Charistics do do
    They portray? Is there a risk of getting deformities or
    What should I expect? How should we handle our mis matches?""""

    First of all, Much more important than ' muddied up' the most
    important thing to know is that different species and
    subspecies of lovebirds and other different species and
    subspecies of parrots have different personalities. There is no
    guarantee concerning the personality of intermixed parrots nor
    is the color of the offspring . Personality problems in itself
    can possibly cause later problems. This also applies to other
    types of parrots. With certain parrots, no matter how hard it's
    tried, breeding is impossible but with other species of parrots
    interbreeding is possible. When it is possible to do that the
    main reason is a more beautiful and colorful bird. It's not a
    good idea to breed birds that have different personalities and
    it has to do with possible medical conditions, possible
    aggressive behavior, self mutalations and other situations that
    are possibly detrimental not only to the bird but also to new
    owners who have to eventually have to deal with these problems.
    Sopmetimes, nothing will happen and sometimes things will
    happen either good or bad. It's a coin toss. Just because it
    can be done by parrot owners doesn't mean that it's a good idea
    to do it.

    """""""However, it's happened in natural as well as controlled
    Environments for many years."""""""

    There is absolutely no scientific proof that any species and
    sub species of lovebirds will mate with each other in the wild.

    There is no scientific proof that a B/G macaw will mate with a
    scarlet macaw in the wild but it can be accomplished when
    people are involved. That applies to all macaws and many
    problems have been created by the interbreeding of these macaws
    by interbreeding.

    There is no scientific proof that in the wild, a double yellow
    headed amazon will mate with yellow crowned amazon or a yellow
    naped amazon. Nor will any other subspecies of amazon try to
    mate with another subspecies of amazon and it can't be
    accomplished even when people try to pull that off.

    There is no scientific proof that a certain grey cockatiel will
    mate with any other type of cockatiel in the wild. All
    cockatiel hybrids were created by people.

    In the wild there is no scientific proof that different species
    and subspecies of finches will mate with each other. It can be
    done by people but that doesn't make it right. The same thing
    applies to canaries.

    In the wild there is no scientific proof that a Lesser Sulpher
    Cockatoo will mate with a Greater Sulpher Cockatoo even though
    they look like twins of each other.

    In the wild there's no scientific proof that a Congo african
    grey will try to mate with a Timneh african grey. It's been
    tried by people but very little success has occurred.

    There's nothing wrong with selling your lovebird chicks but the
    responsible thing to do is tell potential owners that future
    breeding of those chicks isn't a good idea because of the
    unknown that possibly lurks by doing that.-----Dave