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Re: adoption???

Posted by JKCASWELL on 12/07/07
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    On 12/07/07, whatever wrote:
    > On 12/07/07, JKCASWELL wrote:
    >> On 12/07/07, To JKCASWELL wrote:
    >>> On 12/07/07, JKCASWELL wrote:
    >>>> On 12/07/07, to the bird begger wrote:
    >>>>> On 12/07/07, JKCASWELL wrote:
    >> a minimum of
    >>>>>>>> $200
    >>>>>>>>> per month on her for toys, food, and bedding. I also have
    >>>>>>>>> the vet expense every 3 months for pedicures. I have no
    >>>>>>>>> issue with the monthly expenses of her. I also keep an
    >>>>>>>>> emergency credit card, which has not been used as of yet,
    >>>>>>>>> to cover any crisis that may arise. I have entertained
    >>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>> idea of getting another macaw, if the opportunity should
    >>>>>>>>> arise. I just don't have the extra savings on hand, to
    >>>>>>>>> spend more than a couple hundred dollars. Is it really
    >>>>>>>>> offensive to look for this kind of option. I can say I
    >>>>>>>>> would never sell my bird for any amount of money, I love
    >>>>>>>>> her too much for that, she's my soul mate. She gets more
    >>>>>>>>> attention than my kids and husband. I don't want to
    >>>>>>>> offend
    >>>>>>>>> anyone at all, but from my perspective, I would rather
    >>>>>>>> give
    >>>>>>>>> my bird to someone, who can offer her everything in the
    >>>>>>>>> world, than sell it to just anybody. Any thoughts on this
    >>>>>>>>> would be greatly appreciated.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Sure I'll take your bird and give it a great forever home.
    >>>>>>>> Let me know.
    >>>>>>> I know it has got to be hard to let one of your kids go to
    >>>>>>> another home . But if i can ask why are you getting her a new
    >>>>>>> home? I took in a Blue And Gold about 9 months ago the biggest
    >>>>>>> joy to have around. Toby is spoiled but thats ok with me. I know
    >>>>>>> it is heartbreaking to have to post things like this but if you
    >>>>>>> feel she needs another home then maybe you truely have your
    >>>>>>> birds intrest at heart. There are alot of tears when doing this
    >>>>>>> also. I hope you have some support around you. Where do you
    >>>>>>> live. I'd love to give Toby a friend
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I think my post somehow got mixed up. I AM LOOKING at getting
    >>>>>> another Macaw. There is nothing in this world that could get me
    >>>>>> to let my Lucy go, she is just as important to me,as my own
    >>>>>> children! My problem is, the lack of extra cash on hand to pay
    >>>>>> $1000 or more. I have a brand new extra cage 4 x 4 x 5'6
    >>>>>> internal dimensions. I have the means to feed only the best,
    >>>>>> provide all the toys needed, which is quite frequently, all the
    >>>>>> love and time to offer. I take my bird to the vet every 3
    >>>>> months
    >>>>>> for pedicures and check up's. I keep a $5000 credit card
    >>>>>> specifically for vet emergencies, and as of yet it has never
    >>>>> been
    >>>>>> used. I have several large Macaw sized play gyms, as I kept
    >>>>>> buying different ones thinking Lucy would enjoy them...she hates
    >>>>>> them and would rather be on me at all times. I know I can offer
    >>>>>> another bird a wonderful life, but to do so, would require not
    >>>>>> having to pay an outright price of more than $400-$500. I know
    >>>>>> the true value of these birds. What I was hoping to find, was
    >>>>>> somebody's beloved bird, which due to unseen circumatances, have
    >>>>>> to re home thier best friend, and that the birds best interest,
    >>>>>> is first and foremost. I can offer references, from my vet,
    >>>>>> etc. I have no issue with home visits, and follow up visits.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Even though people have alot of money, doesn't mean that they
    >>>>>> can offer a bird a wonderful home. My Lucy came from a very
    >>>>>> wealthy woman, who had several birds. She hit my Lucy in the
    >>>>>> head for biting, threw her on the floor, I think there was a
    >>>>>> stick involved in her punishment, because even after 6 years,
    >>>>>> Lucy see's a broom or anything that resembles a large stick, and
    >>>>>> she screams and hides! She is thoroughly afraid of spray
    >>>>>> bottles. Lucy was only a year old when I got her. Sure her
    >>>>>> purchase price was large, but she was miserable.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I was looking through some of the rescue sites, and was honestly
    >>>>>> in tears. I never realized how abused and neglected so many of
    >>>>>> the large birds are. I have seen the local ads, for dozens of
    >>>>>> these birds for sale daily, and I know that most of these people
    >>>>>> only want money, they have no care about the birds future.
    >>>>> There
    >>>>>> is the few, truly genuine ads, where you can actually feel the
    >>>>>> owners pain at having to give up thier "family". Unfortunately,
    >>>>>> alot of these people have no idea what will happen to them.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Does this make more sense? And what are your thoughts? Any
    >>>>>> help/advice would be greatly appreciated, before I start on this
    >>>>>> endeavor. I in no way, want to offend anyone, just want to give
    >>>>>> another Macaw a shot at a long happy life, and cry about the
    >>>>>> thousands I can't save.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Just a side note, I am not interested in breeding, so that is
    >>>>> not
    >>>>>> what I am looking for. I never realized the numbers of Macaws
    >>>>>> being raised, and then abused in one way or another. The bird
    >>>>>> trade is a sad world. Thank you to all of you on here that have
    >>>>>> given your birds a good life, there are so many others out there
    >>>>>> who will never know it
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Jenn
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> WELL, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST COME OUT AND SAY YOU WERE BIRD
    >>>>> BEGGING!!
    >>>>
    >>>> I am most certainly not Bird Begging! It may sound like it, you
    >>>> don't know me, I don't know you. I don't necessarily even need
    >>>> another bird. I was honestly heart sick over seeing so many Rescues,
    >>>> and it was a thought, that maybe I could save at least one bird from
    >>>> ending up miserable, in a rescue, or dead. At least the birds in the
    >>>> rescues have a chance now, as the adoption regumin is so strict. I
    >>>> thought maybe, there is someone out there, who honestly wants their
    >>>> bird to have a good forever home. My thought was to put out an ad,
    >>>> with what I can offer, and the up front amount I can pay. I guess
    >>>> maybe it does come across as bird begging, but there is no offense
    >>>> meant
    >>>>
    >>>> Jenn
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Hi Jenn,
    >>>
    >>> For one, you have to watch out for this board. They are brutal here
    >>> and will only pick on you. Two, why don't you just take in a rescue
    >>> bird from a rescue? Its probably best you go this route.
    >>
    >> Brutal is ok, and I am sure what I have asked on here deserves some
    > angry
    >> reactions. As far as just going to a rescue and adopting one, there are
    >> 2 reasons, first and most logically, there are none within distance. I
    >> have no issue making a long drive, but they want to be able to come to
    >> your place several times, before during and after adoptions, and I am
    > out
    >> of their driving range. Secondly, as I said before. These birds, if
    >> adopted out, will be monitered closely assuring they are placed in the
    >> right home. I think it is easier to adopt a human, than a bird! My
    >> thoughts were more towards people, who have no choices, and hope their
    >> bird is taken care of, no matter what. I can offer that without any
    >> question! I have a huge home out in the country, no close neighbors, so
    >> screamers are more than welcome! It was just a thought though, probably
    >> not a very smart one. I have my beloved Macaw, she is everything to
    > me.
    >> She can live out her long life with me knowing she will only get the
    >> best, and never be abused or abandoned. She spent her first year of
    > life
    >> being abused, it's funny, she was "bought" as a baby, and abused
    >> horribly. I got her for "Free", and she is and always will be a queen!
    >> If somebody offered me $50,000 for her, I wouldn't think twice about
    >> saying NO WAY! God Knows I could use the money, but that would be like
    >> selling my own child!
    >>
    >> I do appreciate any input though, the good and the bad, I have alot of
    >> respect for people who will say what they believe in
    >>
    >> Jenn
    >
    >
    > Sugar coat it all you want, in he end its still bird begging

    I guess you are right. I am in the less fortunate category, just as almost
    90% of these birds are. When and if the opportunity shows up again though,
    as it did in the case of my Scarlet, I will jump at the chance. I'm sure it
    will show again too. The sad part is, so many parrot owner/breeders, only
    care about the money, not the bird. I am not on a active search though, and
    I absolutely would not under any circumstances try and bargain a price. If I
    decide to proceed with this thought, people would contact me, full well
    knowing what my top price would be, and everything I could offer. They would
    be in full knowledge, before I was contacted. This is really more profitable
    for the birds current owner, than dumping them off at a rescue. The owner
    gets no money from a rescue, I could at least give them $500.00.

    Jenn