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Re: Macaw throwing up

Posted by Rick on 1/29/09
(15) Comments

    On 1/29/09, GreyLady wrote:
    > On 1/29/09, Sue wrote:
    >> Once again, thanks so much for the responses. She did it once
    >> in her cage the day before yesterday. She does the head motion,
    >> and then pieces of food with some clear slime on them come out.
    >> When it happened yesterday, she had flown to another room (guy I
    >> bought her from left her fully flighted and of course can't clip
    >> her wings yet) and then was breathing heavy from flying and
    >> threw up 8 different piles of undigested walnuts I had given her
    >> out of shell a few hours earlier. Other than the throwing up,
    >> she seems perfectly healthy. No ruffled feathers, half closed
    >> eyes, etc. I am wondering if it is nerves. I will of course
    >> take her to the vet if needed, but would hate to add that stress
    >> to her right now if not needed, I am sure you all understand. I
    >> would call it throwing up because she opens her mouth wide and
    >> spits all the food out and then walks away. She does not re
    >> swallow it. Thanks again!!
    > Yes, when I was adding my response, I was thinking to myself, how
    > stressful it could be at this time if she should need a vet trip.
    > It's a real catch-22 situation but I'm sure you will take her if
    > you feel it's a health issue. One thought, do you know any bird
    > groomer or vet tech that you could get to come to your home and do
    > a wing trim for you? I'm personally not an advocate of ever
    > trimming wings but there are times when it can really help certain
    > situations. It could keep her from over exerting, plus, when she
    > lands on the floor, she is going to need your help to get
    > back "up". Some dependency on you wouldn't hurt. Maybe she also
    > over indulged on the walnuts. It sounds like she brought up quite
    > a lot. Try lowering the amount she gets per 24 hours and try to
    > find some fruits and veggies she likes to balance it out. This is
    > a tough time for both of you and I hope it will get worked out. We
    > have our fingers crossed for you.


    What she is regurgitating sounds normal from what you described. As
    Grey Lady had stated, trying cutting back on the amount of Nuts she is
    given, and substitute with other foods.
    Most likely nerves, due to the fact you just acquired her, she is
    trying to find her place(her comfort zone)in your household, and
    therefore eating way too many /much as a result, she is just
    regurgitating to be doing it. We have a Macaw that regurgitates on his
    toe. I don't know the reason behind it, as he came with that habit,
    and he strives to keep it. Then again, if not that way, he will try
    feeding one of us or our other Macaw. He is very sharing.

    I agree with Grey lady. Get her wings clipped. You may be surprised to
    see a totally different, and much more gentler bird at that. When she
    knows she has to be dependent on you to get from place to place, she
    most likely will jump on for the ride. With her being on the floor,
    this would be the perfect time for a step-up and see if she follows
    through. This could be your ice breaker, sort to speak. If you don't
    feel comfortable using your hand or arm, use a dowel of some sort.
    But, I hate to be the bearer of bad news........ at some point you may
    get BIT! She will be testing you. Just GRIN and BEAR it. Do not jerk
    away as it will hurt more. Just firmly say say NO BITE, or NO in a
    firm mono toned voice. Do not yell or scream as she will get excited
    and think this is fun, and next she will bite harder to get a BIGGER
    reaction out of you. If she bites you, just push your finger / arm
    gently towards her beak, she will let go. Coming from a person who has
    been bitten by a Moluccan. I am just a glutten for punishment. It only
    hurts for a moment..... a long moment! It sounds corny, but sometimes
    the bites are worth the progress that is made. Within reason, of course.

    We clip all of ours because of the fact we have ceiling fans
    throughout the house and don't want them to get hurt should they have
    taken flight. Also the majority of ours go outside as well. Another
    reason to keep them well clipped. Another suggestion, next to Grey
    Lady's, if the person you got your bird from isn't too far away, maybe
    ask him to come and clip the wings for you. This would possibly be a
    great time to ask a few more questions as well. And also he could
    possibly show you how the bird is used to being handled or even
    reacting. To this day I am in contact with the previous owners of my
    birds. For them, it is reassurance and happiness of their misplaced
    loved ones well-being.
    For me, it is a great tool / asset when I needed questions answered.

    Sounds as though you do have a good bird, and both of you are
    painstakingly enduring the learning process to develop a relationship.
    Remember, patience, patience, and more patience is needed. Read, read,
    and then went you thought you have read enough, read some more. There
    is a vast amount of information at your fingertips to help you unfold
    some of the most common bird behaviors / problems. All of us here have
    been in your shoes at same point, and I find everyday is still a
    learning experience.

    We have just taken in a 20 yo Umbrella Cockatoo, at the
    re-rehabilitating stage (but still a sweetheart), clipped wings and
    all. With him, clipped wings means he is a much nicer bird,
    Pyschologically speaking of course. On the other hand, Clipped wings
    on Men do not! LOL.