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Re: one more macaw behavior question

Posted by Jeff on 2/04/09
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    On 2/04/09, Rick wrote:
    > On 2/04/09, Jeff wrote:
    >> On 2/04/09, Sue wrote:
    >>> On 2/03/09, Rick wrote:
    >>>> On 2/03/09, Sue wrote:
    >>>>> Hello all,
    >>>>> So my girl is doing A LOT better, but I have two
    >>>>> questions. One, she will come on me and I will scratch
    >>>>> her and she will totally relax and coo and be SO SWEET and
    >>>>> then out of the blue will run up my arm and start striking
    >>>>> my head with her beak. I am wondering why she is doing
    >>>>> this and what I should do??? Also, when trying to get her
    >>>>> back into the cage if she will not go in after a treat
    >>>>> (which is what I always try first) she gets aggressive
    >>>>> when I try to get her back into her cage. I have tried
    >>>>> using the perch but she just flies off of it and circles
    >>>>> around the room and lands on top of her cage again and
    >>>>> again. Any suggestions are GREATLY appreciated!! Thanks
    >>>>> again SO MUCH!
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Sue,
    >>>>
    >>>> Glad to hear you are bonding so well. You are making great
    >>>> strides with her.
    >>>>
    >>>> As for her running up your arm, when you feel her start to
    >>>> dash up your arm, place your other arm or hand in front of
    >>> her
    >>>> to BLOCK her from going up your arm, and give a firm NO as a
    >>>> command. You will have to be persistent as she will try many
    >>>> times to test you just to get to on your shoulder. Always try
    >>>> and keep her at chest height when she is perched on your arm.
    >>>>
    >>>> Clipping her wings would be so helpful for you. You can't
    >>>> imagine how controllable and cooperative she will be once she
    >>>> has them clipped. A totally different bird. Make her depend
    >>> on
    >>>> you for her transporting needs.
    >>>>
    >>>> Clipping her wings will also aide in your not having such a
    >>>> uncooperative bird at bedtime. She is playing a game with you
    >>>> with her soaring through the room, landing , and then soaring
    >>>> again. Once she knows she doesn't have flight, she will not
    >>> be
    >>>> able to make a "quick exit" into the air. Therefore she
    >>> should
    >>>> go right into her cage when asked it of her.
    >>>>
    >>>> Don't mean to harp on the wing clipping, but you will find,
    >>>> more than not, birds who have their wings clipped are better
    >>>> behaved and are more dependent on you. This is what you are
    >>>> striving for with your training. Until you clip her wings,
    >>> you
    >>>> will never have control over her. Her wings are her
    >>> independence.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> I do know I need to get her wings clipped, all of my other
    >>> birds are clipped, it's just a matter of not wanting to stress
    >>> her by taking her to get it done until she settles in a little
    >>> more. Unfortunately there is no one around me that could come
    >>> to my house to do it. I have tried blocking her with my other
    >>> arm, but she runs overtop that arm and goes on up. Any
    >>> suggestions there? I am trying to be brave most of the time,
    >>> but there are times where she almost acts sexually aggressive
    >>> and during those times I am still quite leary.
    >>
    >>
    >> If she is biting at your head, that can become serious. I do not
    >> have a problem with what I believe is called the "little
    >> earthquake" where once she starts moving up you quickly dip your
    >> arm slightly (maybe an inch). This slightly throws off their
    >> balance for a second with no further reprucussions that I have
    >> seen.
    >>
    >> I used this technique for a couple of days and now my greenwing
    >> will only go on my shoulder if I place him there. Not sure if
    >> everyone likes this technique but it sure worked for me.
    >
    >
    > Jeff,
    >
    > That is a great technique. I do the same with ours when they are
    > feeling ornery too. It's a great way to get their undivided
    > attention back. Our Macaw, when he is perched on my partners arm
    > will try and strike out at me (jealousy) so this dropping technique
    > is great for this behavior as well. Brings them back in check.
    >
    > My only concern with Sues' bird is that she will have to be
    > extremely careful and cautious because her birds wings are not
    > clipped, and has she had stated before, her bird can take flight in
    > a heartbeat, so even a slight drop could cause the bird to take
    > flight and cause her to get "wing beat" in the process. Talk about
    > taking a Beating!
    >
    > Sue, I would say now is a perfect time, since she has calmed down
    so
    > well, to take her and get her wings clipped. There will be some
    > stress, but if you keep her with wings, there will only be more
    > stress added as she becomes familiar within her home surroundings,
    > while soaring through the house. Here are things to consider
    keeping
    > her wings unclipped. You say she is a strong flier.
    >
    > Hopefully she hasn't found the windows to appealing to fly into
    yet,
    > (they have no perception of CLEAR GLASS WINDOWS, resulting in
    injury
    > or possible death)or the open exterior door that wasn't shut quite
    > quick enough, or the ceiling fans that were not turned off, or the
    > stove burners that are still hot, or the dirty, greasy dish water
    > that's standing in the sink with sharp objects in it. So many
    > scenarios to be given, that we take for granted. Remember, she will
    > most likely NOT come back if she gets out on you. The stress that
    > would be added then, hopefully not, or some tragedy were to happen,
    > does not even equate to the stress of getting her wings clipped.
    She
    > will get over it, as we say. Maybe pout for a day.
    >
    > You may also want to ask others who have had their birds get away
    > from them accidentally. Talk about stressful. I read a story where
    > only a pile of feather remains were found from an escaped house
    > bird. So sad.
    >
    > I'm not trying to beat this wing clipping subject to death, just
    > wanting you to realize the utmost importance of it.


    Glad someone else uses it also. I did do this when I first brought
    my bird home and at the time he was not wing clipped but did not
    know he could fly. (at least not until I took him to the vet to get
    him checked and clipped).

    I never thought about the flying issue but that is a very good
    point. Although, I can avoid wings beating alot better than a beak
    to the head when they are in that dominant of a position. I agree
    that the best route is to just get him clipped ASAP.